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[#24162] Written by: dsrs [22/03/2007, 12:16]
Quote by maiden30403
post content removed

do not post rapidshare links else you will get banned from this place.

read the post in the admin content.


thank you
it is great to see someone is policing this forum
now, why in the world can't you ban caph for uploading such annoying and
timewasting garbage?
[#24164] Written by: iamjacksTV [22/03/2007, 12:31]
they can't ban caph because the admins of this site aren't part of the scene,
they only make torrents for scene releases.

however, what the admins can do is not post caph releases. the only reason the
current caph episode has 30000+ peers is because it was posted here.

there are other canadian groups that know how to properly make episodes (i think
aaf and mint are two of them). can one of them take a try at this?
[#24173] Written by: refine [22/03/2007, 13:39]
thanks m8
[#24185] Written by: 0depius [22/03/2007, 14:26]
Quote
this file works perfectly for me both audio and video. not one single
glitch
great quality.

whoever says the contrary does not know what is talking about and if not happy
then would do better to go elsewhere if does not like what we offer.

while that may be true when viewing on a pc, it is certainly not true when
viewing on a stand-alone dvd player that is divx/xvid compatible. a growing
number of viewers (including myself) watch their shows this way.

your "offer" is not compatible with these players and you need to learn how to
encode properly. i say "you" because you said "what we offer" so i assume you
are part of the caph release group.
[#24191] Written by: 0depius [22/03/2007, 14:45]
Quote by aydin1954
nope we as in eztv

ah.. my apologies for the insinuation then.

my point still stands however that this is not a "perfect" release when it
won't play on stand-alone divx dvd players. i have never had a problem with
any tv show on my player until these caph releases. i'll forgive some
slightly out-of-sync audio, but when the file won't play at all, i don't
understand how it doesn't get nuked.
[#24210] Written by: 0depius [22/03/2007, 15:46]
Quote by aydin1954

second go out and buy a decent dvd player instead that el cheapo crapola you
have as again it plays perfectly on my divx dvd player (panasonic dvd-s52),
which by the way did cost me less than $100 (converted). and here i am i wasted
a perfectly good cd to prove my point...

hmm... let's see what's easier... you posting a release from cappers or scene
people with a proven track record like xor, lol, etc. instead of some group
that beats the others' release by 2 minutes and can't put out a standard
encode **or** asking 1000's of people to go out and buy a new dvd player.
from the comments in this thread and the last lost caph release, there are
many others out there.

i rest my case.

i'm sorry, i don't mean to sound ungrateful towards eztv, because i truly am
grateful for it, but this is getting frustrating.
[#24213] Written by: iamjacksTV [22/03/2007, 15:57]
@aydin:

it doesn't appear to be a problem isolated to one particular player, though,
since so many people have been reporting the problem. take what someone said
upthread:

Quote by jwbam

that last caph episode had the audio/video interleaving set wrong. most avi
files have that set to 1 frame - ie. the file stores picture #1 with the sound
for that picture, then picture#2 with its sound, pic#3 with pic#3 sound...etc.

caph's file had an interleave of 15 frames - ie. 15 pictures with 0.5 seconds of
sound, another 15 pictures and another 0.5 seconds of sound.

that has less overhead and saves some space (0.3%) but it means you need to
store 15 pictures in memory while you are waiting for the sound. pcs can do
that, but standalone players often don't have enough memory, so they freeze up.
using virtualdub direct stream copy copies the data exactly but reorders it
with an interleaving of 1 frame. caph should check his stream interleaving
settings.


is any of what jwbam posted untrue? if the interleave on caph's files really is
different than every other group, then no wonder there's a problem. the fact
that this happened with a popular show like lost (instead of a canadian show
like corner gas or something) gave us a wide sample set of viewers and dvd
players to test with, and this problem keeps cropping up.
[#24229] Written by: fhsasbvp [22/03/2007, 17:25]
is there a way of speeding up the default bittorrent program the one on
bittorrent.com? i've done everything in the eztv faq but i'm downloading this
at like 4k/s and uploading at 8 k/s. i have it set to upload a max of 28 k/s
because if i set it to auto manage the bandwidth then my entire connection
slooows down. any help would be appreciated.
[#24245] Written by: Guilhas [22/03/2007, 18:41]
Quote by aydin1954
first please do your homework so that you would know that
cappers or scene
people are far remote from this place and will never be seen or heard here.


(cappers or scene
people are far remote from this place and will never be seen or heard here)
i dunno
so, to whom it may concern (a.k.a caph lost capper)
i know, you already heard this from your tender boyfriend before...
but, let's try one more time.
keep it simple, stupid !
Quote by aydin1954
second go out and buy a decent dvd player instead that el
cheapo crapola you have as again it plays perfectly on my divx dvd player
(panasonic dvd-s52), which by the way did cost me less than $100 (converted).
and here i am i wasted a perfectly good cd to prove my point...
i rest my case.


(go out and buy a decent dvd player...)
what a brilliant idea !
i can't believe you had such genious idea so easily!
did it hurt you?
jeezzzz
thinking that way, seems really stupid ask one person to rip in usual and
proven
way... much easier ask dozens of people to spent 100 bucks buying a new dvdix
player.
dont you think?
are you a dvd salesman ?

more, did you collect you statistic counting cases here ?
huahuahua
hilarious...
i think you are a polititian right?
must be... i swear, no pum intended.
cheers
[#24249] Written by: slobeck [22/03/2007, 18:53]
the xor release was on rtt at circa 7:15pm (pdt - west coast) so it's out
there.. maybe some nice person will seed it. obviously not the rtt .torrent..
'cause that wouldn't work anyway. (password) it's out there. if i had the
bandwidth, i'd do it. but i'm only 8mbit

added: it's funny when people thank the grp. since no scene people would be
caught dead anywhere near a torrent site. people need to get it that p2p is the
absolute bottom of the filesharing food chain. -- i've got a copy of a really
interesting document that sortof explains the scene and how it works.. it's an
eye-opener for sure..

http://www.null.bz/temp/hackerfoodchain.txt please take a copy of the doc to
pass around.. i'm not gonna leave it there long. maybe 2 or 3 days.

enjoy
[#24296] Written by: Anurudda [22/03/2007, 22:37]
hai thanks a lot for all of you who uploaded this... it took some time to dl,
thanks a lot though...!
[#24334] Written by: Autopenguin [23/03/2007, 02:14]
having now watched this one, it turns out it's not a multi-part opendml file
like last week's. it plays fine on the latest sigma chipset (like the one used
in the mediagate mg-350) without modification.
[#24335] Written by: barry420 [23/03/2007, 02:18]
thank you for the upload
[#24338] Written by: Gandir [23/03/2007, 02:39]
Quote by iamjackstv


is any of what jwbam posted untrue? if the interleave on caph\'s files really is
different than every other group, then no wonder there\'s a problem. the fact
that this happened with a popular show like lost (instead of a canadian show
like corner gas or something) gave us a wide sample set of viewers and dvd
players to test with, and this problem keeps cropping up.


what i posted referred to the previous week\'s lost from caph.

i just finished downloading the new one (ep 13) and ran gspot on it, which
claims the interleave is \"1 vid fram (42 ms)\" like nearly every other file i
have downloaded. i haven\'t had a chance to try it on my cheap, old standalone
yet, which had froze a few seconds into ep 12.

i also dl\'ed the latest amazing race from caph and that played ok on my
standalone, so it isn\'t every caph release that has this problem.

it\'s not unique to caph either - i have seen the same interleave problem in a
few other shows (two or three eps of midsomer murders). it may depend on what
software is used to encode the avi. virutualdub defaults to 1 frame. i can\'t
imagine why anyone would want to alter the default. i deleted caph\'s lost ep 12
last week, so i can\'t run gspot on it again to see what software was used.


fixing the file

i have seen some posters suggest rebuilding the index. that doesn\'t work. the
problem is in the interleaving of the audio and video streams, not the index.

another has suggested re-encoding with drdivx. that will work, but it is not
necessary to re-encode. re-encoding takes a lot of cpu time (over 20 minutes on
a 3 ghz p4), where as simply re-multiplexing the streams only takes 3 minutes.
re-encode also reduces the quality, whereas re-multiplexing leaves both the
video and audio streams unchanged.

somebody suggested mpeg4modifier to pack/unpack the stream. i\'ve never used
that so i don\'t know how long it takes. presumably it leaves the quality
unaffected.

gspot - http://www.headbands.com/gspot

virtualdubmod - virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net

1. open the file with virtualdubmod

2. answer no when asked if you want to rewrite the vbr audio headers, because
you\'re not altering the audio/video data.

3. make sure you select video->direct stream copy, or virtualdubmod will
uncompress your video by default and leave you with a file tens of gbbytes in size.

4. save as avi.
[#24339] Written by: jwbam [23/03/2007, 03:29]
huh???

post #24338 was written by me, jwbam, but seems to be mislabeled as gandir.

what's going on?
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