Torchwood 4x07 (HDTV-ASAP)

nice. show people being incinerated alive like the jews in nazi germany: "no problem, bring it on,
we love this, show more integral storyline violence please!"
show two guys getting it on: "omg this show sucks, what if i catch this disease, stop trying to make
me gay, ban this crap from the air!"

good to know your priorities are ... straight.

another imbecile missing the point.

it's not the fact that it has gay matter, it's the fact that the gay matter is taking precedence over the
actual storyline.

as you already stated, you haven't even watched this episode yet, so your opinion means nothing at all.
you, like the other moron i quoted, are missing the point.

i can go and see an action movie, knowing there may be some sex scenes, but if the movie consisted
of more sex than action, i'd be very unhappy, even if it was hetero sex.

the same can be said of a couple of episodes of torchwood this season.

no, the point is your point is idiotic and hollow, and the more you try to defend it the stupider
you look. you're crying about a scene that was maybe 45 seconds long in a 50 minute show, and then
stupidly proclaiming that the 'gay stuff' has taken over the storyline - despite that relationship
being very important to this particular storyline, which you seem to have missed in your outrage.
try and dress it up any way you want, but at the end of the day you are clearly grasping for straws
to support your idiotic intolerant viewpoint, and unfortunately for you no one is buying the shit
you are trying to shovel.

and the fact that you think this very brief gay sex scene (only the second one in 7 episodes, no
less) had no point, when it was clearly there to demonstrate the early relationship of the two
characters, something that had wider impact not just for this episode, but that will for future
episodes (and the wider storyline) as well, shows that you're dumber than a rock anyhow. this scene
was anything but gratuitous - something you might have noticed if you weren't screaming "oh noes!
save me from teh gayness!" from within your idiotic and tiny little mind.

want another glowing example of your intolerance and double standards? okay then, where's your
complaints about the 'herero stuff' taking over during this and past weeks. oh, that's right, you
haven't made that complaint once, despite all the stuff with gwen's character, or the relationship
between rex and dr vera, or any of the other straight characters and their lives as depicted. guess
all the 'hetero stuff' (which included sex, kissing, relationship drama, just like that pesky 'gay
stuff' did) just didn't bother you as much as all that - comparitively lesser amount of - 'gay
stuff'. hmmm, funny that...

it wasn't just the sex scene, it was the having more than half the episode centered around their
relationship.
like i said earlier, this series is supposed to be sci-fi/action, and when there's more romance/sex
than science/action, it ruins the series.

i wouldn't give a f*** if the gay scene was much more explicit, the scene's in spartacus certainly didn't
bother me and they were worse than this, but i expected as much as there was in that series due to the
setting/subject matter.
i expect copious amounts of sex in the roman empire, straight and gay.
but i'd certainly be pissed off at an episode of star trek voyager that janeway banging chakotay for
25 minutes of the episode.

the whole relationship buildup bull of this episode just went on way too long, like they'd run out of ideas
for the rest of the episode and that's all they could think of.

the only other episode that contain as much bulls**t soppy crap was the one where there was both a
gay and hetero sex scene, and i did complain about that too, so shove that point up your ill informed
ass.
that is taken from the thread regarding the other episode, where people were
complaining about the gay scene.
point made, stfu about that, eh?


and don't f***ing presume i'm intolerant of homosexuals in any way, you don't f**king know me.
if i'm intolerant, i must really hate own my gay brother, my lesbian niece, and my lesbian daughter
(who, for the record, i love as much as [more in the case of my daughter] the straight members of my
family...).

f**king idiot.

you're wasting your time zapper, most of the people posting here raging against the sex scene have the
emotional capacity of stone and just want to watch shit blow up over and over again week after week after
week.

also, to all the shallow fools saying it's a sci-fi show and must have science, please get a clue. it's a
science "fiction" show, and sci-fi shows are great because they gloss over the science, aliens and
spaceships as they're just used as a vehicle to take the drama to interesting places. this is what made
startrek tng great, it spent a lot of time exploring moral issues and any shred of "science" it had in it was
always utter bullshit and only used to get the characters into dramatic situations quickly. you had a ship
that could take your star actors to an entirely different planet (or in some cases, time period) each week,
language was never a barrier, hospitable planets were a dime a dozen, most races technology level was
always about equal - the science was just such utter bullshit.

like the science of time travel, completely ridiculous but it makes for a great mechanic where you can do
things like take the liberal sexual behaviour of a 51st century con-man and mix it with someone from the
mid 19th century - you have instant tension, drama and complication that you just wouldn't get in a regular
show - that's science fiction.

oh, i'm sure you have a whole rainbow coloured family, because that's like insta-internet proof that
you're really the most tolerant person ever, and your idiotic rants are just misunderstood. yep,
sure, uh huh.

and the only hetero complaint you made was, again, about an all-too-brief sex scene, and one that
was intercut with a gay sex scene, which is telling in itself, but whatever. and your critique of
that hetero scene (it did nothing for the story) was actually blatantly wrong then as well, as it
bonded those two characters together, taking them to a place beyond mere aquaintance or friendship,
thus giving the tragedy impact as one was forced to watch the other one die in a rather horrific way.

regardless, you are still clearly an idiot if you can't see that the building of character
relationships is important to the building of plot or the ongoing arc being told, and just how
effective it is (or isn't). just as you apparently also missed the memo that this show has always
been primarily a character drama with sci-fi elements that explored science-fiction ideas (and
proper science fiction is primarily about the exploration of other ideas and 'what ifs'), rather
than an action-based 'junk sci-fi' show, where the sci-fi is just a branding or a coating on top,
used to cover what is ultimately just another popcorn adventure show at its heart.

without a focus on character depth, ideas and storylines like these mean nothing and have no impact,
it is well written and explored characters that make the stories work. but hey, i'm sick of arguing
with you, so you sit there are scream "too gay! not sci-fi enough! oh noes, icky sex!" every three
minutes while you still continue to watch the show regardless, still expecting it to be what you
want it to be, rather than what it is, and always has been. me, i'll just enjoy the show for what it
actually is.

gay.


^_^

the moron is you, claiming to have watched the episode yet missing that jacks sexuality is key to the plot.
besides, there's not more sex than story in this one. a couple scenes of less than a minute each in 7
episodes
(haven't actually counted the banging-scenes but there were 3 in this episode, right? or 4? still less than a
10th of the air-time) each being around 50 minutes is so f**king far from "more sex than
action" it's ridiculous.

please go wash yourself with acid so you don't catch teh gay-bug.

inbred.