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[#49533] Written by: gutterdog2 [05/08/2007, 05:57]
as joe rogan says, "in a room with 10 people, 7 will be idiots."

this applies to potheads too. just because stupid people smoke pot doesnt mean
pot makes you stupid.

secondly, if you think about it... not to knock christians specifically, but...
if you are a christian and for the drug war agains weed... you are a hypocrite.
if you believe in god then you must assume he doesnt make mistakes. he put pot
here and every attempt to eradicate it is saying that god made a mistake, lets
get rid of it. much like killing a whale just cuz they're tasty. to eradicate
pot is to tell god... dude you made a mistake.

just my opinion.
[#49537] Written by: TaLoN.NL [05/08/2007, 06:23]
.nl means netherlands you retarded self-centered americans.

lol, it's like seeing monkeys talk.
[#49538] Written by: CTU_Bauer [05/08/2007, 06:26]
Quote by talon.nl
weed is healthier than cigarettes and alcohol!


on the contrary!

Quote by bbc news - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6923642.stm

a single cannabis joint could damage the lungs as much as smoking up to five
tobacco cigarettes one after another, scientists in new zealand have said.
[#49543] Written by: spaztard [05/08/2007, 07:01]
okay, i smoke weed at least once a week so i am not anti, but i think that a
couple of points need to be brought up .

- as for the god thing, well, whatever you creator you believe in also created
hemlock and belladonna, which i doubt that you would want to ingest, so, i
suspect that blows that argument ;p.

- according to cosmos magazine (australia, 1996), the mind-slowing effects are
completely reversed if you stop for two months, even for people who have smoked
weed every day for twenty years! which is obviously better than alcohol or
tobacco. my doctor did tell me that it contains a lot of lung damaging chemicals
and looked amused when i thought that i was being good to my lungs when i gave
up tobacco - apparently weed is almost as bad for the lungs. i guess it's less
damaging because you generally smoke less pot than tobacco, and you can smoke
pot though a bong or vapouriser. don't know about the medicinal effects of weed,
kiwi weed certainly doesn't relieve my nausea, headaches or back pain on the
rare occasions that i get those things. it does stop me from being a total
bi-atch when pmsing though and it chills out my cat :d.
[#49548] Written by: njligernj [05/08/2007, 07:29]
Quote by bugbug
surrounding yourself in sin and overcoming it
is the ultimate proof of faith, and something that not only every religion is
based on, but also every society as well.


lol. if you define "every religion" as the three you know about and "every
society" as america then maybe you are right.

however given the fact that one of the religions you are talking about gives an
incredibly dangerous substance which is responsible for more deaths and injuries
per year than any other to its worshipers in the midst of a religion ceremony
... well you aren't exactly on the money.

[#49549] Written by: [05/08/2007, 08:05]
alcohol is far far worse for your health than weed.. if you think otherwise you
are obviously either an alcoholic or retarded

the number of known side effects of alcohol... here's a nice list:

ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/alcohol_consumption_and_health
(take a look through the little list at the top right)

so you can compare:
ht tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/health_issues_and_the_effects_of_cannabis

i rest my case.
[#49550] Written by: aroyals [05/08/2007, 08:11]
it's amusing to me how the stupid comments come from the apparent non-smokers,
such as loudsavlon, i mean really, who eats forks?!?! or minotaur, who can't
think of an intelligent argument so just starts swearing, and all the so-called
"stoned fuckwits" are the ones coming up with the intelligent arguments such as
theghostwhowalks and gutterdog2.

maybe you should try it minotaur? it might make you a little more open minded
and friendly rather than being a preachy asshole.
[#49551] Written by: morphs [05/08/2007, 08:33]
i was hoping this would be released. i've been wanting to see it.

as for the argument...

when alcohol and cigarettes start having medical uses like cannabis does, we'll
start talking.
[#49552] Written by: twister431 [05/08/2007, 08:34]
i'm with the pro mj group. i know if you legalize pot it would peobably
reduce deaths on the roadway significantly. due to people switching from
alchol to pot. and yes the goverment could make a killing in taxes and shore
up social security.
[#49554] Written by: cyrilio [05/08/2007, 08:47]
Quote by twister431
i'm with the pro mj group. i know if you legalize pot it
would peobably
reduce deaths on the roadway significantly. due to people switching from
alchol to pot. and yes the goverment could make a killing in taxes and shore
up social security.


instead of paying 30 billion on the war on drugs. maybe the us government could
make that kind of money. besides, does anyone know how many deaths are related
to alcohol? i can assure you it is a lot more than cause by pot, even if it
where legal.
[#49555] Written by: fitchyfrune [05/08/2007, 08:58]
you don't have to smoke marijuana btw thereby eliminating any lung issues.
[#49556] Written by: Dragon1574 [05/08/2007, 09:21]
Quote by talon.nl
weed is healthier than cigarettes and alcohol!


yea reason i quit was the fact weed makes you brainless and sticks to the fat in
your brain, but anti-cancerous? nah i don't believe that too much carcinogens in
that combustible junk... still each of us have there own choice
[#49567] Written by: fartknocker [05/08/2007, 10:55]
Quote by channel_dunlap
:ahem: weed is safer than alcohol or cigarettes, both
physically and socially.
.
.
bunch of retarded stuff removed
.
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i smoke every night. often times i smoke enough to get pretty fucking stoned.
i have never been late for work, i call off on average of 2 days a year. i am
one of the best employees where i work. i'm healthy, intelligent, reliable and
friendly. show me anybody who could drink enough alcohol to get as intoxicated
as i do every night who wasn't a complete wreck after a couple of weeks. now
tell me marijuana is more harmful.


(dmfaust, you beat me to it. that was a cogent response.)

anyway, good for you, dunlap. i'll rest easy knowing that one of the best
employees at mcdonalds is often times "prety fucking stoned." i'll also be sure
to tip you an extra quid the next time i happen to order my super-sized-full-of-
transfat-fries at your workplace. you say you're "healthy, reliable and
intelligent"? it's all relative (i'm sure you are...when compared to a poo-
flinging monkey.) ;-)


all this *weed vs. cigs/alcohol* is kinda like saying, 'death by gunshot to the
head is better than death by strangulation.'

the point is they're all unhealthy and pose a psysiologically and
psychologically detrimental effect when compared to control groups.

and to the previous posters. i just want to point out that the effects of weed
are not as thoroughly researched as the effects of cigs/alco. there are also
too many confounding factors in current research to make such brash statements.

i'm all for legalization, but my reasons are quite different. the arguments
stated thus far are ridiculously simple-minded and uninformed.
[#49570] Written by: saintdesy [05/08/2007, 11:10]
dmfaust,

i'd stick by that statement. you must have imagined that little incident with
your brother, or else he took something else with the weed. the ld-50 of thc is
over 12 times the ld-50 of nicotine, and how many people do you know who die
from smoking too many cigarettes at one time? in fact, the lethal dose of
marijuana is roughly 30,000 times the amount required to become maximally
stoned. so, unless your brother smoked several hundred thousand dollars of
marijuana in a very short time span, he didn't need to go anywhere except to
bed. in fact, there have never in the history of mankind been any conclusive
evidence that anyone has ever died from the ingestion of marijuana alone.
[#49572] Written by: aroyals [05/08/2007, 11:12]
by "funky weed" i think he means laced with something.
my weed's never been laced but it does happen and has happened to a friend of mine.

i smoked 4-5 grams once on a depressing day and have heard of ppl
doing double that, if not more. you get really high and nothing more.
there is no way your bro went to hospital for smoking mj alone, no other factors
involved.

and yes i agree with dunlap, i have seen people get into fights while being
drunk plenty of times but never while stoned. so this leaves it being bad for
your health and occasionally giving people schizophrenia, of course both bad
things but they don't harm other people. surely what i(we, anyone) do/does with
our bodies/minds is our own business and our's alone? pot smokers, like any
tobacco smoker know the dangers of what we are doing and still choose to do it.
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