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[#29129] Written by: robflam [16/04/2007, 11:18]
companies can certainly find out who you are. i stopped downloading movies
after getting warning from optimum
[#29143] Written by: a1rondog [16/04/2007, 12:56]
fellow canadians out there:

i got a letter from my isp a couple of years ago stating that dreamworks had a
problem with me d/ling one of their precious animated feature films. of course,
my first instinct was to panic... for like a couple of nanoseconds. then i
stopped d/ling movies and started to d/l t.v. shows. what the frack, i thought,
i can watch it on my own t.v. set, tape it with my vcr or d/l it. what, really,
is the difference? i don\\\'t usually burn t.v. shows so no worries! and taped
shows are kept as long as it takes to watch them and to tape the next show over it.

i think the canadian liberal govt passed legislation, before harper took the
reins, that said something to the effect that copyright infringement does not
apply if one is using the item (for lack of a better word) solely for personal
use...in ones home... not
showing it for cash or making copies and selling them on young st or st.
catherine st...some sort of fracken thing like that!

long live katimavik...
[#29154] Written by: Albedo [16/04/2007, 14:33]
Quote by a1rondog
i think the canadian liberal govt passed legislation, before
harper took the reins, that said something to the effect that copyright
infringement does not apply if one is using the item (for lack of a better
word) solely for personal use...in ones home... not showing it for cash or
making copies and selling them on young st or st. catherine st...some sort of
fracken thing like that!


yeah, i guess a letter for movies or video games is possible, but i've never
heard of any canadian getting a letter for a tv show, or even music. i only dl
tv shows, anyways.

in early 2005 (long before harper), the supreme court was the one that ruled on
what you described (simply using something for personal use & not selling/
distributing it isn't illegal). afterwards, the liberal government was
preparing a bill that would have greatly strengthened copyright laws, similar
or even surpassing the us's dmca, but when they lost the vote of no confidence
in nov. '05 the bill died with them, and hasn't been resurrected. check bill c-
60 on wikipedia for more info.

who knew harper came in handy for once, eh?


[#29157] Written by: UnixPimp [16/04/2007, 15:16]
Quote by albedo
just a reminder to my canadian brethren - everything's still legal
in canada
from what i can tell. i haven't ever received a letter, nor have i heard of
anyone getting letters. and if i do i'll chalk it up to scare mongering. but
for everyone else, i guess you're on your own!

uh... commonwealth has nothing to do w/ it, each country makes up their own
laws. like canada.

anyways, when it comes to hbo shows, there is an alternative, though i fear the
mere mention of it is a bannable offence here. but rs... you can split a file
into four parts, and if you have an account can have them all dl'ed in half an
hour. and while i assume rs knows what your ip is as you're getting a file, i'm
pretty sure they don't log it & wouldn't care. so it would definitely be a
suitable alternative for these hbo programs that people may or may not be
getting in trouble over.


another option is to use newsgroups. the slippery slope with bittorrent is that
not only do you download, but you must also upload parts of the file.
therefore you are guilty of distributing the file. with newsgroups, you only
download unless you are the person who posted the file. you can subscribe to a
different newsgroup provider than the one that comes with your isp, so your isp
cannot track your newsgroup usage. some newsgroup providers tunnel through
encrypted connections, so your isp cannot monitor that either.

another thing to mention is that if your isp does provide the correct binary
newsgroup, then they are hosting the file. they are actually guilty of
distributing the file; you are only downloading it from a service they provide.
the isp's are very silent on this matter, so if they do try to threaten you
with cutting off your service, then just report them to the plaintiff and make
them go after your isp for distributing the file on their newsgroup servers.

newsgroups require more technical knowledge than bittorrent, and you will
probably have to pay for a decent newsgroup leaching program and maybe have to
pay for a newsgroup provider. nothing is free, but losing your internet access
is pretty costly as well. be careful out there (to paraphrase hill street blues).
[#31272] Written by: waterbong [26/04/2007, 15:28]
dmca letters are being sent out for sopranos. download at your own risk.
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