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Posted at 06/12/2010, 23:20
#147986
⚠ SPOILER ALERT - (Click to reveal)
i think the program is definitely suffering from lack of writing talent and too many directors.

since episode 1 i really feel the show has slipped from: amazing - episode 1, to quite good -
episode 2, to not bad - eps 3 and 4, to really average - episode 5, to: crap, what an utterly
predicatable and cliched anticlimax finale- episode 6.

darabont's best work on this show was imho ep1 because he wrote the teleplay himself and directed it
himself.
it was clever, uncompromising, non-cliched, interesting, smooth and highly entertaining.

the genius creator of the comic books (which i love) has done nothing to impress me with this show
however.
kirkman wrote ep4 "vatos" and it had a messy 'filler' storyline full of little plotholes and was
guided through its strange diversionary sidestory by some new and embarrasingly stereotypical
characters.

furthermore episode 4's openening sequence of amy and andrea fishing was a poor attempt to create an
emotional
bond between ourselves and characters we barely knew. i felt it was so obvious and predictable that
later we would see one of these 2 die (even if you havent read the comic books) and that our heart
strings should be fairly tugged now that we 'know so much about these 2 girls'. no, not good enough.

it is textbook average storytelling.

were glenn to die that would be different. we have come to love him through observing his actions
and feeling his measure as a character. not through some simple and forced character development
just moments before he dies.

that is probably why these writers are being recycled and the writing team should be shuffled around
until
they find the right magic and the show can become what it needs to be.

as it stands the show is watchable but not amazing.. the corny, cliched actions and behaviors,
stereotypes, characters doing things that are bafflingly 'out of character', or characters doing
things that are so trite and predictable - this is what will kill the show.

amc should send brba's writers over to help twd's writers next season.
Posted at 07/12/2010, 01:28
#147992
fuck what a way to spoil an entertaining tv show there is no need to dissect it, it's still early days
and it needs time to develop, let's just hope that it does not get axed prematurely.
Posted at 07/12/2010, 02:17
#147994
✎ Quote by juergendurden
is it just me or is this the slightest bit out of sync?


don't really notice it till the axe hits the door.

Posted at 07/12/2010, 04:03
#148006
cannot wait for episode 7, hope some1 upload the whole season 1..
Posted at 07/12/2010, 04:18
#148007
✎ Quote by wgdrops
cannot wait for episode 7, hope some1 upload the whole season 1..

the next episode will be s02e01 in 2011
Posted at 07/12/2010, 04:54
#148008
✎ Quote by bratandy
fuck what a way to spoil an entertaining tv show there is no need to dissect it,
it's still early days
and it needs time to develop, let's just hope that it does not get axed prematurely.


sure, and you are right it is early days. but i was just giving my feedback on the first season.
something wrong with that? how have i spoiled anything? you needn't overreact just because you like
the show more than i do.
i think i will love the show more later, but the first season was just very disappointing and a lot
of people think the same thing. peace
Posted at 07/12/2010, 04:58
#148010
didnt i read exactly the same in the comment section of the ign review?
the web sure is small sometimes...
Posted at 07/12/2010, 12:25
#148036
✎ Quote by juergendurden
✎ Quote by xeno360
didnt notice any sync errors here. loved the episode! i heard
this was the season
finale, is that true? if
so.. this saddens me! ☹️



jup, this was it. we'll see how season 2 will work out in 10 months or so, it'll be quite interesting to
see how the firing of the entire writing staff will affect the show.

oh, and for all the people wondering what jenner whispered into ricks ear:

⚠ SPOILER ALERT - (Click to reveal)
i'm pretty sure that he told him that the bloodwork revealed that his wife's pregnant



when i read that this was the finale of the season i made a zombie noise, aaarrrrrrrhhhhhhhh
Posted at 08/12/2010, 00:27
#148064
✎ Quote by theblart
season 1 was done by freelance writers and they will stick to the same formula in
season 2, being guided by darabont and kirkman....nothing will change


fantastic news! thanks for clearing that up blart. can't wait for the next season. 🙂
Posted at 08/12/2010, 23:45
#148173
✎ Quote by shanghaigriffin
✎ Quote by bratandy
fuck what a way to spoil an entertaining tv show there is no
need to dissect it,
it's still early days
and it needs time to develop, let's just hope that it does not get axed prematurely.


sure, and you are right it is early days. but i was just giving my feedback on the first season.
something wrong with that? how have i spoiled anything? you needn't overreact just because you like
the show more than i do.
i think i will love the show more later, but the first season was just very disappointing and a lot
of people think the same thing. peace


"a lot" of people, yeah right. even the most die hard zombie fans have been raving about this show,
along with people who don't watch shows like this. the series has been well received both by critics and
fans. it has been a brightspot in an overall lackluster season of new tv shows. boardwalk empire and
the walking dead were the two bright spots for me. and both have been critically acclaimed and have
made many peoples best of lists for new tv shows this year. it was also
renewed after the 2nd show and each episode has received more ratings then the one before it,
something that doesn't really happen when a show sucks.

your opinion is in the minority, don't over inflate it with anecdotal evidence. i've also seen that exact
same rant copied on other sites so it seems like
someone is copying and pasting that all over the place trying to be trendy by hating on the show.
Posted at 12/12/2010, 21:17
#148464
✎ Quote by mikey-bizzle-09

some people are never happy are they. this show was great i don't see what you problem is. i have
only heard good things about this show. stop nit-picking and cheer the fuck up its xmas soon you
miserable sod!!


hahahaha.
i'm a good viewer of zombie movies and in my opinion this series are ok. i'm not looking in this series for
a full throttle blockbuster gory zombie movie or a cheesy drama. i can live knowing that it's only a genre
and even romero had fucked all up several times. i'm a fan of darabont's previous movies and i know
that the budget and storytelling is not the same as films but my expectations are not affected. i hope more
episodes are to come and wish (shawshank) redemption for him and twd. let's wait the story to develop
and rest assured it will not dissapoint us.
don't pay attention to people throwing all the shit over us, this is a good thing and we don't have to deffend
no one.
Posted at 13/12/2010, 08:54
#148523
wow..... some very interesting reading on this forum.

apparantly it is unwelcome to leave opinions here unless they are singing golden praises and
throwing flowers of gratitude all about.

one should probably learn to mind their step here or be insulted for having an opinion.

you know, all this talk about the walking dead and all i can think of is the good old days when
opinions were welcomed, whether they be your own opinion or that of someone else who perhaps differs
in viewpoint.

the good old days when you were listened to instead of abused for merely saying what you feel.

you didnt have to agree or like everything you heard, but people at least respected each other for
having something to say, instead of this absurd defensiveness for a silly tv show about zombies.

i guess here, same as it is just about everywhere now on the internet, people are so darn defensive
and quick to use foul language and insult each other just because people like different things and
have different tastes.

the walking dead is worth talking about and discussing, but why is it such a bad thing to say
something critical?

the audiences have changed a lot i guess. back to nostalgia i go.
Posted at 09/01/2011, 15:50
#150131
looking forward to the next season.
Posted at 10/02/2011, 21:52
#152990
yes, i quite agree to what you said about audience, critics and good old days, i just can't post my
critical opinions anywhere - everybody just starts personal abuse immediately! so this is most i can
say nowadays! thanks for speaking out ..
Posted at 23/03/2011, 23:24
#155730
✎ Quote by shanghaigriffin
⚠ SPOILER ALERT - (Click to reveal)
i think the program is definitely suffering from lack of writing talent and
too many directors.

since episode 1 i really feel the show has slipped from: amazing - episode 1, to quite good -
episode 2, to not bad - eps 3 and 4, to really average - episode 5, to: crap, what an utterly
predicatable and cliched anticlimax finale- episode 6.

darabont's best work on this show was imho ep1 because he wrote the teleplay himself and directed it
himself.
it was clever, uncompromising, non-cliched, interesting, smooth and highly entertaining.

the genius creator of the comic books (which i love) has done nothing to impress me with this show
however.
kirkman wrote ep4 "vatos" and it had a messy 'filler' storyline full of little plotholes and was
guided through its strange diversionary sidestory by some new and embarrasingly stereotypical
characters.

furthermore episode 4's openening sequence of amy and andrea fishing was a poor attempt to create
an
emotional
bond between ourselves and characters we barely knew. i felt it was so obvious and predictable that
later we would see one of these 2 die (even if you havent read the comic books) and that our heart
strings should be fairly tugged now that we 'know so much about these 2 girls'. no, not good enough.

it is textbook average storytelling.

were glenn to die that would be different. we have come to love him through observing his actions
and feeling his measure as a character. not through some simple and forced character development
just moments before he dies.

that is probably why these writers are being recycled and the writing team should be shuffled around
until
they find the right magic and the show can become what it needs to be.

as it stands the show is watchable but not amazing.. the corny, cliched actions and behaviors,
stereotypes, characters doing things that are bafflingly 'out of character', or characters doing
things that are so trite and predictable - this is what will kill the show.

amc should send brba's writers over to help twd's writers next season.

⚠ SPOILER ALERT - (Click to reveal)

1) the first episode of most, if not, all series is usually the one that has the most money behind it (in
the first season). of course it's going to be a little stylistically better than other. hell, look at breaking
bad... as great as later episodes are at times, i still think none of them hold a candle to the pilot
episode - in almost any way. - it's to be expected.

2) and re: episode 4... you really, totally sound like someone that is not familiar with the comic - or
perhaps, haven't picked up on how things play out. the beautiful thing about episode 4 is precisely the
stuff that the side-story opens up for potential future situations. plus, i personally loved the idea of a
hospital run like that (and i thought the janitor character that was somewhat-leading the people in
there) had a good back ground... as good as most characters from the comic, anyway.

and while i'd see why some people would cringe or find the whole grandma-walking-in scene, but i
thought it was mildly funny - and actually seemed more like a comic book-y resolution, than a standard
tv one. personally, i found episode 5 to feel much more like a filler episode (but one that is fitting for
twd's style) until the last 7 minutes.

3) also, the opening scene in the boat was amusing and entertaining, in my opinion. not so much
because of any emotional ties that were instantly created by the characters, but because of the actual
background of the characters and the situation with their dad. it was a nice little story to hear. i think
you're just classifying it as generic story-telling is because the scene was the opening scene. had it
taken place in a previous episode, you probably would have loved it.

plus. why does it matter that that girl didn't really matter to us? should the writers refrain from killing
anyone in the group until we've gotten emotionally involved? that would seem generic and not twd's
style... whether you like them or not - or we've really had a chance to know them, characters can die.
get used to it. that's always how the comic played out.

also, i'm not exactly sure what you're referencing when you claim people act 'out of character' - unless,
perhaps, you're comparing them to the comic book version of the character... or perhaps, you can't
accept some minor emotional outbursts that result in someone doing something reactively. i just love
claims like that without even a short-hand explanation.

4) and as far as the writing staff. it's true that darabont had done many massive re-writes on episodes
- and this is partially why writers were let go. it is also true that darabont was going to leave and hand
the show over to someone else - who then left after darabont decided to jay leno the show from him
(haha, i kid)... darabont still plans on contracting writers and using kirkland plenty (thank god, despite
your inability to see a stamp on everything kirkland did for the who).

with darabont and kirkland still on-board, i think everything will be fine for the show, personally.

5) i'm not really sure how brba's writers would help the show that much. it's a completely different
beast... plots, character development, dialog - everything is a completely different style. perhaps a
few direction/acting queues for portraying some truly internal struggles and tension... of course, not
everyone can be bryan-frakin'-cranston. 🙂

honestly, it sounds like you want people to be unpredictable and surprising, whilst not doing things that
are 'out-of-character'... you want it to be unpredictable, yet you demand that we get to know a love a
character before they are killed off.

if you have read the comics, then you'd know that some characters are just regular-ass predictable
people. it's likely that - like in the comics - some characters will just be there to offer conversations and
mild conflict until some future scenario in which we'll get to see this predictable characters in an extreme
situation that may reveal or change something about them. 6 episodes is a bit short to truly get a sense
of pacing and importance of things established in earlier episodes (like episode 4).

anyway... i'm done. you seem kind of pretentious and impatient. something a walking dead fan should
try not to be.
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