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[#87497] Written by: Tooboodoo [05/04/2008, 18:03]
Quote by icey35
it seems like either the source or the encode is bad?

it looks very grainy, not much better than the 350mb version :/

comparing it to the hr 264 versions of shows like lost and jericho, it doesnt
seem anywhere near as good?

i haven't viewed this particular file, but bsg is always very grainy -- if
you've watched it on dvd or hd-dvd you'll see what i mean. it's just how they
shoot it. the hdtv and dsrip versions aren't high enough quality for those
details to show up.
[#87549] Written by: Zank [06/04/2008, 01:31]
Quote by redhex
.mkv doesnt work on xbox 360 simply because of the container.
which i suspect is
the most widely owned streaming media capable device. so if "the
scene"
(fallout
boy fans are they) likes it, then its another ridiculous bit of quasi official
bullshit made up by obsessive compulsive nerds that doesnt benefit anyone. dont
pick a format everyone can use guys!


you attack the scene which does this for free and yet you download all their
caps. you sir are a whiny hypocrite.

you are so clueless. spend 5 minutes and read up on why. here let me help
you. most hdtv is broadcast with ac3 audio. ac3 does not work in mp4 and avi
is total crap. if the scene were to use mp4 then the ac3 would need to be
converted and that is a quality loss as well as time consuming. furthermore,
there are no good fast mp4 editors even now 2+ years later since the scene chose
mkv. anyway, just convert the caps you leech to mp4/aac yourself you lazy fuck.

btw - just use frank's xbmc auto installer and you can watch mkv on xbox 360
without even having to convert
[#87588] Written by: [06/04/2008, 10:32]
avi is designed for one audio and one video stream.

mkv can take multiple streams and subtitles in the one file, and overall is a
bit smaller than avi and more error tolerant (missing data just gets skipped,
rather than crashing your player)

your dvd player wouldnt run it anyway as its h264 or x264 instead of divx/xvid.

just suck it up and watch it on your pc like we do, and enjoy good quality - or
go watch the low res sd files in avi.
[#87597] Written by: LordLancelot [06/04/2008, 13:11]
this will play fine using vlc and a computer, is there a way to watch this on a
tv or a hd tv?

is there a dvd player, or a game console (like xbox) that will play this ?
[#87605] Written by: Ayii [06/04/2008, 14:23]
Quote by redhex
.mkv doesnt work on xbox 360 simply because of the container.
which i suspect is
the most widely owned streaming media capable device. so if "the scene" (fallout
boy fans are they) likes it, then its another ridiculous bit of quasi official
bullshit made up by obsessive compulsive nerds that doesnt benefit anyone. dont
pick a format everyone can use guys!


here's how to get a mkv file to play on the 360 or ps3. download gotsent
(http://sentry23.googlepages.com/) and it will extract the video file and encode
the audio to stereo, then combine them into one mp4 file that the systems can
play back. works great and only takes about 15 mins to do on 1.5ghz pentium iv
(my computer is old and slow).
[#87645] Written by: ShawnRuss [07/04/2008, 01:53]
please before i download can anyone tell me if it really is 720p or are the
people saying that its not any better than the 350mb version correct?
[#87646] Written by: MrBlonde [07/04/2008, 02:14]
the quality is much better than the 350mb version however peeps are right that it is not up to the quality
of the lost 720p rip. it is still well worth the download and the space battle scenes are beautiful in 720p...
not to mention the benefit of 5.1 sound!
[#87650] Written by: mailman0 [07/04/2008, 04:01]
the reason why mkv is used is because the avi container does not handle the 5.1
ac3 stream properly in many cases. avi also requires lots of workarounds to
contain h.264 video which leads to incompatibility. the only other option for a
video file that is sure to work is to use older or less sophisticated codecs
like divx and xvid which would make the filesize skyrocket and/or drop the
quality down significantly.

oh, and avi can't even handle vbr mp3 audio properly.

here are a couple threads that discuss the reasons why mkv is great and avi is a
mess:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=119377
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=54306
[#87652] Written by: thebishop74 [07/04/2008, 05:18]
bsg has always looked kind of low grade, regardless of rip size, they put a
crap load of gain into the picture, it's part of the look they want for the
show, as is every other scene being shot in half darkness.

down side is when it's compressed, the grain seems to get even more pronounced,
and of course the dark solid colours also suffer from compression artefacts.
bright clear shot shows rip and compress real well, this stuff just shows up
any and all flaws in compression.

based on last years rips, settings during compression can alter how good it
looks, depending on who ripped a show last year effected how good it looked,
but in the end it all looked poor in comparison to many other shows.


personally i'm morning the loss of hr rips, the scene seems to have decided
they are not important anymore, which sucks for guys with limited equipment who
want best possible pic and sound.
[#87663] Written by: Raziel Anarki [07/04/2008, 09:20]
anyone know if a 700mb rip is released somewhere? my pc chokes on this version
:s, but it can handle the 700mbs...
[#87800] Written by: JeanLucPicard [08/04/2008, 14:46]
Quote by raziel anarki
anyone know if a 700mb rip is released somewhere? my pc
chokes on this version
:s, but it can handle the 700mbs...


if your cpu is in the p4-class and if your pc has been built within the last 4
years, there shouldn't be any problem with 720p playback (in theory, at least).

i suggest that you check for any potential problem with your installed video
codecs first.
[#87949] Written by: xti [09/04/2008, 18:16]
Quote by xti
nice that it's in hd -- too bad the format's not
usable. mkv?
what's wrong with avi?

yes, i'm sure there are video players that will handle it.

well, bummer, but i gotta pass over this because my dvd player will not.

Quote by aydin1954

you are new aren't you? mkv is the container of choice by the scene for h.264
files and is perfectly usable with either vlc player or mpc with coreavc.

and of course your dvd player is not going to handle it. and would not even if
it was avi as it was not built to handle hd.

you want to watch hd? you need to invest in the needed infrastructure...



mkv is the 'container' of choice for linux users. and yes, it's great and runs
fine on any one of the three linux boxes i have. please don't assume that you
have a clue about either my knowledge or my system set up. i have a dvd player
that will handle even most avi formats, but not, of course, the latest because
the flash isn't upgradable. excuse me for wanting to watch the show on my hdtv
as opposed to my computer monitor.

it wasn't a slam against the hard work of the poster, just a comment about the
format which, if i wanted to, i could hunt down a conversion program for. or,
as i'd mentioned, fire up vlc and watch it on my computer.
[#88069] Written by: ruben_k [10/04/2008, 10:29]
Quote by xti
nice that it's in hd -- too bad the format's not usable. mkv?
what's wrong with avi? (...)


the problem with avi is that it's not made to handle this quality. the mkv
(matroska) container can handle it. for example, the modern-day codec is the
h.264 codec, or in 'the scene' mostly x264. avi can't handle this codec, nor can
avi handle multiple audio-tracks, nor embedded optional subtitles. all these
things can be done with the mkv container.

Quote by redhex
.mkv doesnt work on xbox 360 simply because of the container.
which i suspect is the most widely owned streaming media capable device.


the problem is that it's made for 'real computers', with decent cpu strength to
decode hd materials. consoles can't handle it, yet. someday they will... but not
yet.

Quote
so if "the scene" likes it, then its another ridiculous bit of quasi
official bullshit made up by obsessive compulsive nerds that doesnt benefit
anyone. dont pick a format everyone can use guys!


h.264 and/or x264 are the codecs of choice these days. those codecs deliver the
best and most crisp images, and at high resolutions. xvid/divx are the codecs of
yesterday, they were nice while sd lasted, now the age of hd has come - they're
obsolete. mkv/mp4 are the choice of the future, the world just has to adept to
them ...
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