Illegal (UK) net users to be cut off

unbelievable! that's all that comes to mind.

first of all i am not in uk but am in a eu member state.

the internet is in essence the supreme form of liberty and freedom. it's own
structure makes it so. the only possible way to attempt to control it is through
drastic regulation such as this one. how will they be able to know who downloads
illegal material? will they monitor all the internet traffic? if so i would
personally consider it a drastic violation of my fundamental rights to privacy
and to freedom of information.

another interestingly stupid fact i so often see is the deficit estimates made
by the industry when they state the losses caused by piracy. i don't know if
this is the case in other regions but in my country at least those estimates
simply do not apply. here less than 5% of the people who download pirated
software and other products could even afford to purchase any such products and
less than 1% would deem it necessary. therefor the industry would not have to
gain anything from wining this war against piracy. if anything they would stand
to loose as many of the so-called "pirates" often choose to buy a product that
they discovered in their endeavor and grown to like and appreciate it. piracy is
also an investment. many of those people that can not afford to buy software and
choose to download it receive this way the chance to learn and later perhaps
become a programmer or producer themselves.

ok this is fucked up. where have the world gone to

""a spokesman for the internet service providers association told the times (uk)
newspaper it remained hopeful that a deal over a voluntary system could still
emerge: "every right-thinking body knows that self-regulation is much the better
option in these areas."""

oooh, i must go turn off my computer now... o_o

but yeah, i have to wonder whether uploading stuff to sites would also be seen
as a bad thing....

who is the government protecting here , its not the person who voted them in,
its the 4-5 big companies that are suffering profit drops ,not loses. why should
they get protection from the government when they dropped the ball in the first
place. instead of pissing of the same consumer who still buys there product why
dont they find a way to make money from it.

we didn't even get a chance to vote for that lard-ass, brown. he snuck in like
a slug getting into your vegetable patch. now he's sat on a pile of carots
ruining all in sight. blah.

:)

hopefully we can stress this will interfer with our human rights, go to a super
liberal eu court and get some kind of restraining order against the uk
government 😉

blimey. that would be rather amusing.

hmmm ... here's hoping the govts plan falls thru. i'm thinking if the uk govt
gets it's way on this it will be only a matter of time before the australian
govt use it as an excuse to follow suit in oz too. ☹️

fight the power uk!!

this is nothing more than the big man trying to protect his own investments.
dvds/cds/video games/software sales are at an all time high! due to the fact
that high street retailers like hmv and zavvi have gotten into the habit of
moving their newly released dvd into the buy x number of dvds/cds/software for

maybe if we say dowloading is a kind of religion, we can get away with it!?
but seriously what can we do?

but like ven says we got to fight

how many more liberties will they take away from us? when on the other extreme
they let other kinds of people get away with murder because of their civil
liberties, it's all wrong. we need to fight this should it happen, start an
internet users association or something and urge people who use an isp who
blocks this kind of traffic to boycot them and move to another isp. i use
utorrent which has a neat encrypt button but not sure how effective it is now
or will be in the future. "say no to isp's that say no!"

"...costing music and film companies billions in lost revenue."
poopoo. it ain't lost if it never would have existed. they really need to be called
on their dubious estimation methods.

as for cmailbox's "how many more liberties will they take away from us?"
..really? first they came for the music downloaders, and i said nothing because
i did not download music. something like that? the media corps want cashola.
that's the extent of their interest. i don't think they aim to suppress your
human rights. ...though i am sure some people here consider downloading pirated
material to be a basic human right 😛

(funny aside: spellcheck complains about "cashola", recommends "asshole" )

so what i can gather it is the type of file allocation type they are on about
stopping i.e mp3 , avi & mpeg & so on it seems as if it will be back to the
old times re-name the file allocation from .zip to .mp3 or as what i have
worked out rar all major files up

would this actually count for tv shows too??? after all they're not classed as
dvd's/albums/music.

what these people really fail to see is that therre would be absolutley no need
for fast broadband internet connections without file-sharing. isp's should worry
about their income... 6million lost broadband customers... i would switch to the
smallest one available, for about a tithe of the rates i pay now. for example :
i've got 25mbit connetction now for about 110

thank goodness for peer guardian ( pretty reliable for now ) and maybe it would
help to make our community a private site;with members only who can invite only
trusted friends .i don't think for a minute that these measures will be
foolproof but it may slow them down a bit,while people with better brains than
me can figure out a way round the proposed legislation

how can they stop people downloading cds, films & games but the internet is
still full of kiddy porn dirty peado scum?

thats the stuff they shoud be blocking. these internet providers host the porn
on their servers but they don;t care about all the abuse and suffering all they
want is the money it generates.