A competitor for SyFy?

i\'d love to help out, but i am not on facebook.

a \'real\' scifi network would be awesome though.

this sounds like bullocks to me..it would be nice, but at first glance i call bull. if it was real , the name of the
network is awful

this is not bull. at all 🙂 it's a project that has been in the works for years, literally, by people i know and
trust. true scifi fans; if anyone can be trusted to run a science fiction oriented tv network, it's these guys.
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i think the idea of a new sci-fi channel is great, however one that only shows old ones to start for a
minimum of 5 years sounds like crap, sorry to say.
why is it so hard for a sci-fi channel to make good and exciting sci-fi and fantasy series/movies?
lets face it most of the "sci-fi/fan" out there sucks donkeys ass.
(yes there are some exceptions like eureka which adds enough humour to keep coming back.)

i mean i am a huge sci-fi/fantasy fan, i enjoyed stargate and atlantis (they make em here after all)
and doctor who (thank u england).
and yet the morons that be are going out of their ways to alegedly bring in new fresh blood to watch
new shows and then they make total and complete shyte (yeah i am referring to sg universe and new
bsg that thankfully ended and that no one really watched).

so we have a possible new "sci-fi" channel (with a stupid name) that will try to buy old shows for 4 or 5
years in an effort to save and make enough money to produce crap, i don't think the fans will buy into
this, i mean they are just as sick of the shyte as i am, probably more so.
even doctor who isn't as good as it could/should be.

i don't even get the sci-fi station here we have "space" which is even worse cause they do their best
to make it seem that the shyte is what fans demand when they clearly are just as clueless.
at least when they started the ideas was there cause they tried to bring new shows (lexx for example)
cept they were really bad stroywise and eventually they stopped and tried to sell universe shyte.
not good enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if the dude wanting to start a new chanel is serious then lets hope the plans get modified to
show "original programming" and that the programming will actually be good and worth watching!!!!

it is a shame that sci-fi anime doesn't seem to make it on the aleged sci-fi stations, i mean
macross frontier and gundam 00 would alone draw many people to the sci-fi genre.
as for social services i only know 1 sci-fi/fantasy person involved in it, the hundreds of others
have real lives and will plan to meet for trailing and whatnot.

as for that crap new bsg, i have yet to meet any sci-fi fan who liked it, regardless of the awards
it may have won (which just indicates that some few morons picked it in spite of the fact it was pc
garbage).

fans know what they like and they know what is shyte.

when space first started it had 2 sci-fi series it was partly sponsoring and anime that it would
show and that was what drew many fans initially. and it was not egoamericancentric about what they
would show, it is a shame that as time went by they changed into the anal kissing sycophants that
have become.

as for "it doesn't help" comment, you couldn't be more wrong, pointing out the shyte and
potentially having someone in charge go "huh i wasn't alone in thinking that garbage should not ever
have been aired" is good because it will hopefully mean the next piece of trash they try to push
will get stopped or changed enough that it might be good. (who else misses firefly which was good
till some air head was like no get rid of it as it wasn't pc enough?)

i am not alone in saying/stating that there is good sci-fi/fantasy, even if the majority of it seems
to be anime.
i mean how many other than me are checking nyaatorrents daily? i am sure tonnes and tonnes.

so could a new sci-fi station be potentially profitable? not likely because most fans will just
torrent and have commercial free, and in cases like here where when atlantis was being made it was
shown in the easy six months before it would be shown here (woo hoo for torrents).

the problem with sci-fi now is that too many morons are making it politically correct and making it
scientifically factual (i mean who remembers how star treks warp speed was originally significantly
faster (example warp 3 was 3*3*3*speed of light) till tng decided nope it is too fast and has too
many ties to fasa (cause they made the rpg for it) and decided to tell all the fans they were morons
and that warp speed was really way slower) as we understand science now, which is total bull shyte,
these morons should remember the lessons of asimov, make it up and don't worry about the science and
if it turns out to work 100 years from now excellent, if not oh well at least the story was fascinating.
(i mean if the robot and foundation novels were turned into series who would watch?)

seems that far too many forget that in "sci-fi" there is a "fiction" element, it is not called
"sci-nonfi".

so while i agree most sci-fi fans don't facebook i disagree that showing old or crap sci-fi on a new
station will in any way yield success.
take a lesson from the torrent sites, be creative and be willing to be in the red for several years
before running in the black, the long term pay-off will be all the more greater.
and have balls enough to make good sci-fi, all the battletech fans alone would make a new station
successful if a battletech series was made.

for those that don't facebook how bout copy/pasting details here so that those who use the eztv for
torrenting and that have the 10 or 20 minutes can duscuss here?

start by naming it something the majority of people would be able to pronounce out loud, let alone
in their heads.

need original programming now. not 5-6 years down the line.
why r u limiting your budget to that level where only after 5-6 years u can produce new shows?
believe in yourself, believe in your own work.

if u don't begin by believing in yourself, then what incentive is there for others to believe in you?
plan for and ask for a bigger budget.

if u think it is "not possible" "not practical", then know that for many many of human beings on earth, even
this "60 million" is "not possible" and "too high" "ridiculously expensive" "who will finance it" "not practical"
and the like.

and also know that for many producers and financiers "60 million" is a piddly sum for real quality
production. more than this amount is shelled out in one single good movie! how did the financiers get
convinced there? simple -- the producers believed in their upcoming work.

conclusion: u don't believe in yourself, and no one will believe in you.

get new programming to the sci-fi fans now, not 6 years later.

sorry santabj, this seems like either a scam, or a really badly thought out idea.
and they can't hire out a few bucks for a starving graphic artist to make a logo? if they have
absolutely no financial backing how can we trust them as a broadcaster? eventually they are
probably gonna turn to crowdsourcing (asking us for cash), and how can we trust putting our
money in, when they're not willing to put any of their money in their marketing?
i don't know...everything about it seems so skeavy

your scam detector seems to be malfunctioning. what, exactly, do they have to gain from setting up
something like this as a scam?

no, they are not going to turn to crowdsourcing - and the reason why i know this is rather simple; as a
corporation, they aren't allowed to. there are rather strict rules as to how corporations are allowed to
make money.

this is very early in the financing of the venture. the money that they had they have spent on setting
up a proper business plan and on covering every angle, doing the research etc. this takes a lot of work,
and it costs a lot of money to get the expertise needed to do it. hiring a graphic artist before now hasn't
made any economical sense whatsoever. they are talking with several graphic artists right now who
are giving some input practically for free, which is going to help - but eventually they'll need to hire
someone to make a complete graphic profile.

also, as i said i do know these people personally. being cynical and even skeptical about proposals
such as this is alright, healthy even - but there's a difference between skepticism and uninformed
rudeness.
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synergy or synergistic would be better names then the one already chosen in spite of the kewl
definition.

as for making a tv station profitable within a year or less talk to the dude that made channel m here,
he sold it to rogers and is quite happily enjoying his stinking wealth.

seems like there would hafta be more short cuts to getting sponsors and making money so you can
deliver good sci-fi and or fantasy programming.

one would think with all the vast fans for the genres that you could probably do a cattle call for
volunteers to make high quality programs for almost nothing since salaries are the biggest expense and
if you are cattle calling for volunters.............
especially if you chose to mad some here where they made atlantis and sg-1 and eureka and the
many others that seem to be made (makes you wonder how much more interesting torchwood or
doctor who would be if 1/2 episodes made here as well lol)

so thanks for the post santab i appreciated it:)

done & liked.

sounds like a fantastic idea and very worth supporting. sci-fi definitely needs a new home and hopefully
the-syzygy-network is it.

i dont use any of the social networks, so a bit more info in here would be good, as for the syfy channel,
i dont even watch it here in the uk, its really quite rubbish, its all reruns and rubbish, nothing new or
original, most of the programs can be found on other channels (on sky)

i'm fed up with reruns of startrek, christ, it was around when i was a kid, time to put that away and get
something new out there, star trek has had a good run, now let it go

if dr who and torchwood were made in the us, they wouldnt have lasted as long as they have, the us
produces some great shows, but very few ever go on for very long, they all get cancelled, so dont even
think of the us doing any uk programs

the list of cancelled programs in the us getting cancelled is endless and if they arent, they are put on
at some ridiculous time, so they fail any way, at least the uk keeps em coming

look up a few posts, i posted quite a bit from the discussions on facebook.
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at least dr. who and torchwood are trying, they get kudos for that.
hell even red dwarf is making another season.

what the channels need to do is have some balls and create a couple series and stand behind em till
enough fans realize there is a channle for what they wanna watch and then they will go nuts over it.

and they need have enoguh brains to not make it into soap opera shyte (like that recent show about
exploring the system where they concentrated more on the relationships of the peopel than they did on
a good story, the bastards).

and again i would point out there are tonnes of sci-fi and fantasy anime that would help a new channel
as well and they could even have new shows because of it since there are constant new anime series
that the fans faithfully sub weekly.
(i mean how many downloaded high school of the dead for example?)

so the "it may take 5 or more years for new and original programming" is a total load of poo.

i don't believe it to be a scam, that said i am sure the started of channel m had no where near 60
million when they started.
how about a copy/paste of their idea of a 1st year of shows.
for this fan knowing what they woudl like to show to start will be a good/great indication about how
serious they may actually be.

how about you skip cable altogether lol like come on times are changing go with it! make a web site that
host sci-fi show in legit way of course with your crappy ads so you can make some money.. this way you
have the whole world as possible network base and not depend on geo location. let face most ppl that
come to eztv is because either we can`t get the show we want in the country we live in or that we can`t
afford the specialty channels that host the shows we like and of course ppl like me who just can`t stand commercials every 10 mins or w-e.. plus this way you can also host and support new shows like pioneer
one!

either way good luck with your plans hope it works out for you and your "friends"

but i can`t wait to see the day that cable t.v as we know it dies like newspapers are!

tv ????

man, don't those things die already!?!?

seriously, if they want to bring something new, then they should start by introducing a competitor
for itunes, one that works on tv's and not just computers, drm-less and then things might go the
right way.

the reason saifai is not a sci-fi channel anymore has a lot to do with the mafiaa and how they
control the media and that a network dependent on the mafiaa's schedule will put its employees like
also in their hands. you can't stream sci-fi series when you need to cover people's wages but no
other source of income exists when studios don't produce as much as they did, never-mind that they
sack every show that drops even a bit in ratings. it's all about the money these days.

allow me to serve you a platter of reality. tv is not going to die. if tv died, this site would die. you do
not want tv to die. the current model of tv distribution is outdated, yes - but saying that's a reason for tv
to die is like saying you should destroy all roads because now we can travel through the air.

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